[identity profile] lucre-noin.livejournal.com
Rewriting this post because I've read more books!

Who is Mordred's mother? This is a list of ancient books I read and the parentage of Mordred.

HISTORIA BRITONUM: No Mordred.
ANNALE CAMBRIAE: There is Mordred/Medraut but there is nothing about his parents.
HISTORIA REGUM BRITANNIAE: Mordred is the son of Anna and Lot. Anna is Arthur's sister.
CHRETIEN DE TROYES: No Mordred. But we have a Morgana and no telling about her children.
CULHWICH AND OLWEN: Nothing of Mordred, Morgause or Morgana.
LANCELOT-GRAIL: I've read a modernization and Morgause was Mordred's mother.
ALLITERATIVE MORTE ARTHURE: Reading it : D I'll let you know.
MORTE d'ARTHUR: Mordred is the son of Morgause and Arthur


And now the modern books. In this color  the books with Morgana as the mother; in red the book with Morgause as Mordred's mother and dark blue for everything else.
Also, I would love to write something similar about Bedivere and the idea of Bedivere-as-the-original-Lancelot so if you have some informations or titles of books with Bedivere as the main character, please, write to me.
[identity profile] ficticons.livejournal.com
I started reading Le Morte D'Arthur for the first time recently - something I've wanted to do for a while - and I think I've discovered something interesting.

The Starz show Camelot (now on Channel 4 in the UK, by the way!) includes two characters called Ulfius and Brastias as part of Arthur's first group of knights. I thought they were original creations, like I think Leontes (another of that first group) is, but when I opened my copy of the Morte, there they were! Well, just Ulfius at first, but Brastias is in there too.

Camelot also features Igraine as a regular character, and I didn't realize that her being alive after Uther's death and Arthur's rise to the throne could be so...well, canonical. I guess the stories where she isn't alive can be seen as the odd ones out, huh?

Anyway, all this to say that I got rather excited about this 'discovery' and wrote an essay comparing the Morte's Ulfius and Brastias to Camelot's, and looking a little bit at the treatment of Igraine's storyline, at my journal. There are some (mostly slight, but one possibly large) spoilers for Camelot in it but I've warned for them (by making the spoilers white text, FYI). It's called Thoughts about the influence of 'Le Morte D'Arthur' on Starz's 'Camelot' and I'd love to see what you think about it.
[identity profile] unclehyena.livejournal.com
A couple of weeks ago, I posted the following in my main journal:

"Mary Sue Lancelot?
A few people have responded to my thought that there is a really good Arthurian movie still waiting to be made; while responding to them, I realized that Lancelot is a Mary Sue. Think about it: Chretien de Troyes took an existing popular story, and grafted his own character into it, making him better than anyone else. Pure Mary Sue. It's grinworthy, at least..."

Since then, I have given the idea a bit of thought, and while I realize this is not likely to be a new idea, it is new to me: ALL of Arthurian Romance is FanFic, every last bit of it. In the of EVERY existing work, the writer took established stories, tweaked and edited them to taste, and cut or added new characters at whim.

The distinction is that there IS no original, core work on which everything else is based. It has ALL been fans writing for other fans, for nearly nine hundred years.

Yeah, it is a grinworthy idea, but it is also rather wonderful...

Uncle Hyena
[identity profile] custodianiseed.livejournal.com
Hullo
I have just joined your auspicious community so I thought I'd say hi - Hi.
I'm an English Lit student in Scotland currently working on final disseration - subject King Arthur of course. My title is: 'Kingdom, Court & Table Round: Literary Interpretations of the Arthurian Legend', or something like that. Basically I'm writing about the different interpretations/representations of the Arthur stories and why specific authors chose to focus on specific aspects. Early title was 'Arthur's Anxieties' because I am looking at how King Arthur's Britain is used to examine an anxiety facing the Britain of the author's time. So far I have read most of the major English-language works pre-WWII. I am planning to get hold of the story where Arthur and chums go to the north pole and fight walruses next. Not that I will be using it in my work, mind you...

So, yeah, I thought it would make sense to join up to a community to keep my head focused on Logres even when I'm online!

~fin~

Paper help

May. 8th, 2006 01:54 pm
[identity profile] dragon-element.livejournal.com
I'm in need of a few pointers... I'm writing a 15 page research paper on the Arthurian age, and the rough draft is due in a week. My paper is going to centre around the historical aspect of King Arthur and his reign (what he changed/did/created and how his reign impacted the many cultures that followed). Does anyone know of any reliable non-fiction books that may be of help to me? So far I have The Age Of Arthur by John Morris and The Return To Camelot Chivalry And The English Gentleman by Mark Girouard. And would anyone happen to know of any good online sites and articles that may be of use to me?

Thank you!
[identity profile] sarmatianknight.livejournal.com
Lords and Ladies,

Another short piece about a King Arthur character - just what came to my mind.
So maybe not perfect but I thought you might like it.

read here

Your Knight.

Mordred

Sep. 28th, 2005 05:06 pm
[identity profile] sarmatianknight.livejournal.com
Lords and Ladies,

I thought you might be interested in this

Your Knight.
[identity profile] geca.livejournal.com
I was writing my college application essays (potential Medieval/Renaissance Studies major, yay!) and while I was in the middle of writing one about what I love about the Arthurian legends, I came up with this:


What have we learned from the legends of King Arthur?



1. Do not have sex with your sister. This is a big no-no, especially if she is evil, fertile and endowed with magical powers.

2. Thou shall not covet thy King's wife. If you find yourself in this situation, castrate yourself immediately-- it is better in the long run.

3. Do not sleep with your husband's best freind, especially if you are the queen. Just no. It will not turn out well.


;D

Help!

Nov. 24th, 2004 01:37 pm
[identity profile] malore-elentari.livejournal.com
I'm writing an essay for my Arthurian Legend in Literature class and my topic is how Lancelot is portrayed in Le Morte d'Arthur versus his earlier characterization in Chretien's French romance "The Knight of the Cart".

Any ideas, suggestions, comments would be INCREDIBLY appreciated.

Oh, and this is my first post evar...hi! :D
[identity profile] geca.livejournal.com
I just stumbled on this essay and I love it. I'm a big big fan of Celtic mythology (it's my dream to someday learn Gaelic/Irish) and my favorite aspect of Arthurian Legend is looking at how Christianity and Druidism and various mythologies are woven into it.

A Comparison of Celtic Myth and Arthurian Romance.

x-posted to [livejournal.com profile] celticmyths.
[identity profile] heathwitch.livejournal.com
Does anyone know of any essays or papers written on MZB's The Mists of Avalon? Can anyone point me in their direction?

Thanks!
[identity profile] chthonic-gnome.livejournal.com
At request, I am posting up my term paper I wrote for Arthurian Literature (taught by Professor Edward Steidle, here in my senior year at Stanford U). It's an A-paper, so I guess it is of some value. Feel free to quote me, as long as you don't turn in my paper for one of your term papers, and as long as you give credit where it is due ;) Thanks!

Morris's Guenevere )

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